Better By Association
An original podcast series from the Texas Society of Association Executives, focused on the career journeys of professionals in the TSAE community.
An original podcast series from the Texas Society of Association Executives, focused on the career journeys of professionals in the TSAE community.
Episodes

Nov 19, 2025
Nov 19, 2025
38 min
In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Dr. Tracey Wilen, the closing keynote speaker at this year's New Ideas Annual Conference in San Antonio. Dr. Wilen shares her unconventional path from the world of fashion magazines to leadership roles in technology and manufacturing, highlighting how resilience, curiosity, and adaptability shaped her career. The conversation explores the major forces reshaping today’s workplace — rapid technological disruption, economic uncertainty, and global instability — and what professionals need in order to stay relevant. Dr. Wilen discusses the value of continuous learning, the mindset shifts required to navigate change, and how AI can serve as a powerful collaborator rather than a threat. They also talk about the importance of networking, the evolving skills landscape, and the vital role associations play in equipping their members for the future of work.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Nov 19, 2025
38 min

Oct 23, 2025
Oct 23, 2025
31 min
In this episode, recorded live at TSAE’s New Ideas Annual Conference in San Antonio, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Pam Donahoo, FASAE, CAE, CEO of USFN - America's Mortgage Banking Attorneys. Drawing from her distinguished career with organizations like American Mensa and USFN, Pam shares lessons on leading through transition, engaging multiple generations, and fostering trust through transparency and patience. She also offers practical advice for emerging association leaders—encouraging them to volunteer, stay curious, and embrace every opportunity to learn how associations truly work.
Better by Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Oct 23, 2025
31 min

Sep 24, 2025
Sep 24, 2025
35 min
In this episode, recorded live at TSAE’s New Ideas Annual Conference in San Antonio, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Jenifer Sarver, Principal at Sarver Strategies and keynote speaker at this year’s New Ideas Annual Conference. Together, they explore how clear, authentic communication can strengthen associations and build trust in times of change. Jenifer draws on her background in media relations, crisis communications, and leadership training to share strategies for staying mission-focused and transparent. The discussion also highlights how to navigate public scrutiny with grace, foster curiosity to better understand others, and lead with integrity in today’s complex environment.
This episode is sponsored by Freeman.
Better by Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Sep 24, 2025
35 min

Aug 20, 2025
Aug 20, 2025
34 min
In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Gloria Terry, CEO of the Texas Council on Family Violence, and the 2025-2026 board chair of TSAE. Gloria shares her inspiring path from Chamber of Commerce executive to nonprofit leader, driven by a commitment to creating meaningful change. The conversation explores the Council’s multifaceted work—from legislative advocacy to crisis response—while also addressing emerging challenges like the misuse of AI in abusive situations. Gloria offers thoughtful insights on leading with curiosity, asking the right questions, and navigating association leadership in today’s complex social and political climate.
This episode is sponsored by Novi AMS.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Aug 20, 2025
34 min

Jul 23, 2025
Jul 23, 2025
47 min
In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert explore how associations can harness the power of artificial intelligence with guests Jennifer Mitchell, CAE, of the Association of Texas Professional Educators, and Emily Stamm of Betty:AI. From first steps to future visions, they share real-world stories of implementing AI, including how it's being used to personalize member experiences and solve sector-specific challenges. The discussion dives into practical applications, ethical considerations, privacy concerns, and the evolving role of AI in driving smarter, more strategic association operations.
This episode is sponsored by Monarch Media & Consulting.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Jul 23, 2025
47 min

Jun 25, 2025
Jun 25, 2025
36 min
In this episode, Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with Tracy Ginsburg, Ed.D., CAE, executive director of the Texas Association of School Business Officials. With over 40 years in association leadership, Tracy shares how she helped transform TASBO through strategic planning, legislative advocacy, and a strong focus on member value. She offers insights on overcoming fear around finance, the power of data-informed decisions, and why transparency and teamwork are essential for lasting impact.
This episode is sponsored by Higher Logic.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Jun 25, 2025
36 min

May 22, 2025
May 22, 2025
43 min
In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert chat with Angela Davis, MBA, CAE, CEO of the Society for Pediatric Radiology, about the leadership lessons that have shaped her journey. Angela shares how she navigated the leap to CEO, the power of building a strong remote team, and her strategies for staying grounded amid uncertainty. She opens up about imposter syndrome, adapting leadership styles, and the ongoing importance of self-care, member support, and professional connection—especially through organizations like TSAE.
This episode is sponsored by 42Chat.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
May 22, 2025
43 min

Apr 24, 2025
Apr 24, 2025
49 min
In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Aaron Wolowiec, FASAE, CAE, CMP, founder and president of Event Garde, to explore what’s shaping the future of meetings and events. Aaron shares how he unexpectedly found his path in the industry and offers valuable insights into the lasting effects of the pandemic, shifting attendee expectations, and the increasing costs of AV, food, and beverage. The conversation dives into building authentic participant relationships, embracing AI for personalized experiences, and improving accessibility. Aaron also discusses the vital role of safety management plans, the power of mentorship, and the importance of wellness in an ever-demanding profession. Whether you're just starting out or a seasoned event pro, this episode delivers practical tips and big-picture trends to keep you ahead of the curve.
This episode is sponsored by Visit Austin.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Apr 24, 2025
49 min

Mar 26, 2025
Mar 26, 2025
40 min
In this episode, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert welcome Avi Olitzky, president and principal consultant of Olitzky Consulting Group, to explore the unique and often complex relationship between association CEOs and volunteer leaders. Avi shares insights on the role of emotional intelligence, strategic planning, and shared purpose in building strong CEO-volunteer partnerships. The discussion covers best practices, common misconceptions, and strategies for maintaining effective collaboration, even as leadership changes. Tune in for expert guidance on fostering productive, long-term relationships between association executives and volunteer leaders
This episode is sponsored by Darling Promo.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Mar 26, 2025
40 min

Feb 25, 2025
Feb 25, 2025
36 min
In this special episode, recorded live at the TSAE Women's Summit, hosts Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, and Katy Markert sit down with confidence-building expert Marli Williams to explore the power of self-trust and personal transformation. Marli shares insights on overcoming imposter syndrome, strengthening confidence in both individuals and teams, and practical strategies like curating a "support wall" and recognizing personal strengths. She highlights the importance of self-awareness and mindset in professional growth and offers guidance on leveraging professional associations to build a strong, supportive community.
This episode is sponsored by the enSYNC Corporation.
Better By Association is produced by Association Briefings.
Show notes
Marli Williams is on a mission to inspire, motivate, and elevate individuals and organizations to unleash and unlock their full potential to become the confident and authentic leaders and changemakers they are meant to be.
Whether you're a corporate executive, a budding entrepreneur, or just a regular person who wants to live life to the fullest, her interactive keynote presentations are designed to energize, motivate, and inspire you to take your life and leadership to the next level.
For more information, visit Marli's website at https://www.marliwilliams.com.
Feb 25, 2025
36 min

Meet Your Hosts
Steven Stout, FASAE, CAE, is the executive director of the Texas Society of Association Executives, where he leads the organization in advancing its mission and serving the TSAE community. Katy Markert is the owner of Katy Jo Creative, a design and branding studio that partners with associations to strengthen visual identity and brand strategy. Together, Steven and Katy host conversations with leaders and changemakers across the association community, exploring the ideas, trends, and challenges shaping the profession today.






